The real reason Boeing's new plane crashed twice


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  • Vox
    Vox   4 days back

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    • Phil Anderson
      Phil Anderson  2 hours back

      You blame the engine, then explain that the engine placement caused the increase in the angle of attach. If you know anything about geometry the placing the engine closer to the drag would lessen the pitch problem!! You then "theorize" that software and the MCAS system were a result of competitive pressures. This must have been written by lawyers.

    • Derek C
      Derek C  3 hours back

      korrdavl thank you! I hate these people spreading fear and making things worse then they are. Obviously it’s tragic and Boeing will do everything it can to fix the situation and make it right but spreading false information about a plane that is actually a really good plane, it just happened to have a small issue that created a big problem but the aircraft is a awesome/safe plane. It’s very similar to an NG which is the safest plane on the planet according to statistics.

    • CartoonCraze
      CartoonCraze  6 hours back

      737 likes on this comment?

  • Fractured Joules
    Fractured Joules  10 minutes back

    I blame the Feds for not overseeing the testing like they should have. They pushed it through too fast. This hints that Boeing has a few people in the government in their hip pocket. Human life swapped for profit, never a good thing. People need to pay for this tragic loss of life. Both Boeing and the feds.

    • elisabet nugraheni
      elisabet nugraheni  21 minutes back

      Im glad you just show us the wallet and shoes, not the human body part.. :) im very shock when my friend show me the body part and organ of the boeing 737 max passangers

      • anthony pratt
        anthony pratt  30 minutes back

        To all who committed I want to offer my deepest condolences to those who where directly affected by these tragedies IT DIDN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN. Money is the route to all evil BOEING now that you made that money you have to compensate these people for there lose of life.! Thanks for that detail video about the MCAS. Even the person who detailed more about the other systems adjacent to the MCAS and how it plays a role on the entire system. Will software correct this issue I have no idea but that would be a bigger gamble Boeing to put this plane back into service and this happens again. Then what.?

        • bare nekid
          bare nekid  43 minutes back

          Elephant in the Room Factoid;
          There are (were:-) MANY of these Aircraft in service, typically flying 24/7.
          Thousands of takeoff/ landing cycle. With Zero crashes let alone catastrophic ones
          Is there a no one dares speak of correlation to these 2 tragedies and their 3rd world operational environment ?
          Sure looks that way.

          • Il Gatto
            Il Gatto  47 minutes back

            During the last 4 months nobody has ever thought that the problem with lion air 737 was the mcas. And why it took just 3 days after ethipionan 737 accident to tell that the problem was the mcas? The timing of all this story is unbelieavable, somebody in boeing and in faa should explain why 737 max has flown for so long after the first accident.

            • Andrei
              Andrei  51 minutes back

              If this is true, then a bunch of Boeing people should spend their life in prison.

                RAOUL BLOM SPACE TRAVELER  52 minutes back

                because of a capital system 400 people lost their lives

                • dick killrock
                  dick killrock  1 hours back

                  Yep we are expendable. As long as they get their new company cars.

                  • Tyler Chouinard
                    Tyler Chouinard  1 hours back

                    I would like to hear from an actual pilot, not a news outlet with a bad reputation of bias.

                    • David G Perfectdaycalendar

                      Boeing is the Ford Explorer of our times.

                      • Rooster1508
                        Rooster1508  1 hours back

                        The 737 MAX is great airplane. Because some airlines were too cheep to train their pilots to fly it is not Boeing's fault. Boeing recommended that all pilots be trained/retrained on the MAX.

                        • Ubentmy Wookie
                          Ubentmy Wookie  1 hours back

                          ...and this is the scary aspect of air travel... it is bad enough that you have to give all of your faith to a machine weighing in at 75 tons of metal, or the pilots who are probably underpaid and overworked, but you have to give over your faith that a company, a corporation that really cares about dollars more than human souls...

                          • Raxo
                            Raxo  1 hours back

                            I just came home from my vacation , I was just onboard a 737 Max-8, 2 hours ago... lucky I’m alive...

                            • [Kitsune]キツネ
                              [Kitsune]キツネ  1 hours back

                              Okay now im scared of taking planes...

                              • Veeran Matmari
                                Veeran Matmari  1 hours back

                                Instead of re-engineering or redesigning a new plane ✈️ Boeing in a hurry, came up with the same old plane with a new name along with a faulty system...!

                                • Star Gazer
                                  Star Gazer  1 hours back

                                  This is complete bullshit. MCAS has nothing to do with the thrust of the aircraft. If you move the engines up, then the thrust has a lesser, not greater, effect. MCAS has to do with the aerodynamics in high AOA turns.

                                  • You Goonie
                                    You Goonie  2 hours back

                                    TRUMP + BOEING + REPUBLICANS. PEOPLE ARE BLIND TO SIMPLE MATH.

                                    • Luc Delarue
                                      Luc Delarue  2 hours back

                                      This is the result of a stupid way of reflexion from Boeing. For them, computer always has the last word, even if the pilot got thousands of hours of flight behind him. On the other hand, Airbus use the computer as an assistance for the pilot, he will always have the last word.

                                      Can't wait to see the consequences on self-driving cars

                                      • tRUMPHUMPINNATZEE COLUSSIONNOTACRIME

                                        Lots of Boeing shills in here

                                        • Huaishan Xi
                                          Huaishan Xi  2 hours back

                                          well, how did the ethiopian plane crash????

                                          • Veeran Matmari
                                            Veeran Matmari  2 hours back

                                            The new “MCAS” Technology in Boeing 737 - Max 8 has turned it into a Flying Coffin...! ⚰️

                                            • Alex Is AWESOME Mig
                                              Alex Is AWESOME Mig  2 hours back

                                              Get out of my recommended vox

                                              • Veeran Matmari
                                                Veeran Matmari  2 hours back

                                                I believe loss of hundreds of human lives just doesn’t matter to BOEING...!

                                                • Waid cent
                                                  Waid cent  2 hours back

                                                  it's all about money at the end

                                                  • Lazerbrainz2k3
                                                    Lazerbrainz2k3  2 hours back

                                                    Moving the engines' mass up and CLOSER to the aerodynamic centerline made this 737 variant LESS stable? I don't think so.

                                                    Now, moving the engines' mass forward (which also happened) to create a tail heavy aircraft, that can make an aircraft less stable. Not excessively so, this is no F-117 Nighthawk, but enough to require augmentation to fly comfortably (again, not a new thing).

                                                    It's been reported that in both crashes the aircraft involved had issues with the critical sensor feeding data to the augmentation system - Lion Air's was a longer term problem which made itself known on that aircraft's last successful flight, Ethiopian's may have been struck by something on takeoff which disabled it. Fur Boeing's part, each aircraft has two sensors but it's been reported that only one fed data to MCAS, which is a major oversight of an easy chance to engineer in redundancy. Still, it's reasonable to suspect that tha main issue might be sensors that are faulty or unusually damage prone, and sourced from a supplier to Boeing rather than designed in house. It's also been reported that Boeing made optional a couple gauges which could have alerted the flight crew to bad data from their sensors - cheap on Boeing's part, but more on airlines' fault when they don't spend the extra money to get that option - those airlines reportedly include Lion Air and Ethiopian.

                                                    Vox needs better aerospace consultants.

                                                    • fouad idrissi
                                                      fouad idrissi  2 hours back

                                                      Boeing and FAA they are responsible for the tragedy they need to pay both.
                                                      What a SHAME!!!

                                                      • William Gryszka
                                                        William Gryszka  2 hours back

                                                        It was greed that killed those poor people!

                                                        • fernando ramoa
                                                          fernando ramoa  2 hours back

                                                          I'm sure the engineers behind the design are in vacation in bora bora

                                                          • Lon Passoff
                                                            Lon Passoff  2 hours back

                                                            ALLOWING A COMPUTER to override a pilot is an IDIOT MOVE!

                                                            • marc atkinson
                                                              marc atkinson  2 hours back


                                                              • rob sim
                                                                rob sim  2 hours back

                                                                "if it ain't boeing I ain't going" stupid yanks

                                                                • Adib Enayati
                                                                  Adib Enayati  2 hours back

                                                                  Typical American company... doesn't care about anything except money and profit . I would choose a 40 years old Airbus over a brand new Boeing anyday. What a joke.

                                                                  • chaosXpert
                                                                    chaosXpert  2 hours back

                                                                    That's capitalism. Adapt or go out of business. This should result in a nice fat lawsuit for Boeing

                                                                    • Jenny Zoet
                                                                      Jenny Zoet  2 hours back

                                                                      Corporatocracy = less regulation driven by the need for increasing quarterly earnings. In this case, the FAA allowing Boeing to self regulate. Good job U.S., buffoon led Kleptocracy.

                                                                      • hector bossio
                                                                        hector bossio  3 hours back

                                                                        Good explanation. I wouldn't like to flight on any Boieng aircraft. As many Americans corporations, it's just another terrorist company. Boycott American products!

                                                                        • tscottme
                                                                          tscottme  3 hours back

                                                                          If you are not watching Blancolirio YT channel you are not hearing enough details to understand this crash. You have leftist reporters telling leftist fairytales and leaving out enough details so their audiences "reaches" a leftist conclusion.

                                                                          • Firstname Lastname
                                                                            Firstname Lastname  3 hours back

                                                                            Great video Vox.
                                                                            Well thought through and brilliantly executed.

                                                                            • Mahir Ali
                                                                              Mahir Ali  3 hours back

                                                                              well, it is a big problem that a company can jepordize its resposibility on the lives of millions in order not to fall back in a commercial race. it is to me sadly a result of american commercial industrial culture. I do not trust americans in food industries, drugs industry, in anything that they have big share of profit.... when it comes to business they look like they do anything for money...

                                                                              • relativeair
                                                                                relativeair  3 hours back

                                                                                Remember all those idiots that would preach “if it ain’t Boeing I ain’t going”? lol

                                                                                • Alex Park
                                                                                  Alex Park  3 hours back

                                                                                  Well structured storyline, easy to understand.

                                                                                  • Paper Cheeki
                                                                                    Paper Cheeki  3 hours back

                                                                                    Airbus should show to mercy to Boeing. They better get all those market shares....

                                                                                    • Paul Ingvarsson
                                                                                      Paul Ingvarsson  3 hours back

                                                                                      The sketch att 1:54 is very informative. Why did not Boeing riase the plane above ground ? Too costly?

                                                                                      • Paul Grimm
                                                                                        Paul Grimm  3 hours back

                                                                                        Are they trying to be like Air Bus?

                                                                                        • S Douglas
                                                                                          S Douglas  3 hours back

                                                                                          It is just tragic.

                                                                                          • Daniel Price
                                                                                            Daniel Price  4 hours back

                                                                                            Not only did they mess up trying to compete with the A320neo, but they gave them a hug advantage with all the bad press they’re getting.

                                                                                            • Sirak Tsegaye
                                                                                              Sirak Tsegaye  4 hours back

                                                                                              I'm from Ethiopia, I've a question. First let me illustrate something in you're mind here.

                                                                                              When you have done something terribly wrong and you don't want others to know but bugs you're mind then you unconsciously do something that seems to prove you haven't done anything wrong.

                                                                                              So why is that MAX 8 in the commercial climbing at 90 degrees to the sky While that triggers the MCAS? To show their is no design flaw and no such thing as MCAS that triggers the nose down?

                                                                                              • john boy
                                                                                                john boy  4 hours back

                                                                                                im not an expert on these things but it sounds like some people at boeing need a long prison sentence plus lots of cash going to relitives of the dead even tho that wont bring them back.does it not worry anyone else that theyre training pilots to turn there upgrade off like whats the point in having it if it needs to be turned off